BOTS ARE BUYING ITEMS - Do something pls!

I have no patience for debating with people who don't use logic.

Have Fun.

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ymudrogado#2695 wrote:

I have no patience for debating with people who don't use logic.

Have Fun.

Sounds about right.

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ymudrogado#2695 wrote:

You have to be very naive to believe they are not bots. It's being impossible to profit being a HO Warrior, and GGG needs to fix this, that should be priority number one...

It's almost as if people were telling you all that if there is in game trade then this shit would happen.

And ALL GGG can do is ban people, which they do all the time.(three currently which could equate to dozens of bots)

BUT you also have to be equally naive to think that every character that bought an item before you could is a bot, in most cases it's just that they are closer to the server meaning they can load in marginally quicker and that is enough, especially on items like maps.

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Scarletsword#4354 wrote:

Do bots run around with ~500$ worth of MTX?

Uhh, yeah...some of them do actually, they buy them thinking it makes it look like they are respectable paying customers and gives them a free pass so they can try bully their way out of a ban.

So pay like 2c more for your items. With or without bots, you are NEVER going to get the cheapest possible version of a high demand item when you're competing with thousands of other players. Not only are the numbers not on your side, it's not even a fair lottery because you're competing with people who have faster load times and lower pings to the servers the sellers are on.

This is not a new problem, it's not unique to asynch trade, and the solution is exactly the same as it was a year ago: stop being cheap and scroll down the list.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

So pay like 2c more for your items. With or without bots, you are NEVER going to get the cheapest possible version of a high demand item when you're competing with thousands of other players. Not only are the numbers not on your side, it's not even a fair lottery because you're competing with people who have faster load times and lower pings to the servers the sellers are on.

This is not a new problem, it's not unique to asynch trade, and the solution is exactly the same as it was a year ago: stop being cheap and scroll down the list.

Exactly this.

As a Valdo farmer, this has been extremely problematic since async trade was implemented, it is worse now than it was in 3.27

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate#2605 wrote:

So pay like 2c more for your items. With or without bots, you are NEVER going to get the cheapest possible version of a high demand item when you're competing with thousands of other players. Not only are the numbers not on your side, it's not even a fair lottery because you're competing with people who have faster load times and lower pings to the servers the sellers are on.

This is not a new problem, it's not unique to asynch trade, and the solution is exactly the same as it was a year ago: stop being cheap and scroll down the list.

Also, even if you are using live search it is still an event that needs to be pushed to your client. If you are lucky you can be among one of the first to get the event but you rarely are on such a high demand item.

If OP is not using live search then I'm not sure what to say. Then you just don't understand trading.

Are trade scraping bots annoying? Yes

Is it a big deal for GGG long term? Maybe

Should it affect your daily play at all. Absolutely not.


The only immediate problem for the individual player is the expectation that they are entitled at a chance to snipe an underpriced item. Which they are not.

Stop trying to buy the cheapest item and youll stop running into the bots. Buying at even 1% above the lowest market price solves this.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

Are trade scraping bots annoying? Yes

Is it a big deal for GGG long term? Maybe

Should it affect your daily play at all. Absolutely not.


The only immediate problem for the individual player is the expectation that they are entitled at a chance to snipe an underpriced item. Which they are not.

Stop trying to buy the cheapest item and youll stop running into the bots. Buying at even 1% above the lowest market price solves this.

Look, this is a pretty surface-level take. Saying bots don't affect your daily play is just ignoring how PoE’s economy actually works.

Bots devalue YOUR time, it’s not just about 'not being able to buy an item.' Bots farm 24/7, flooding the market with raw currency and basic drops. Ever wonder why that cool item you dropped is worth peanuts, or why Divines keep skyrocketing? That’s bot-driven inflation. Your time spent playing literally becomes worth less every single day because there's a machine 'printing' currency on the other side.

Flipping and Sniping are part of the game, nobody feels 'entitled' to a snipe, but the market is supposed to be competitive. If I put in the work—studying poe.ninja and vendor recipes—to know what’s worth buying, I should have a fair shot. When an HFT (High-Frequency Trading) bot sweeps the market in milliseconds, it kills that human mechanic and monopolizes the profit.

'Paying 1% more' is just a bot tax... That advice only works for the guy who buys one item a week. For anyone trading in bulk (Essences, Tattoos, Runes), that 1% extra destroys your margins. In the Faustus exchange, you don't even choose who you buy from; if you pay that extra 1%, you’re literally handing free money to the bot net that controls the listings.

At the end of the day, bots aren't just a 'trade site annoyance.' They dictate how much your loot is worth and how much the items you want cost. They are reaching into your pocket whether you notice it or not.

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ymudrogado#2695 wrote:

Bots devalue YOUR time,

As we both take the time to engage in a useless debate on the forums instead of playing the game.


My point is, GGG knows about the activity. Just play the game.