Missing voidstone probably bug

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Belegur85#5784 wrote:

Not relating to this particular instance, but just in general, in this section, gameplay questions about players not having, or not understanding how to physical get the voidstone after completing the requirement, is one of the most frequently asked questions. There's some solution that can be tried, like the things being mentioned in this thread, but it seems there is not always a simple answer, as you might expect. I'm not sure if it is because of player misunderstanding, bugs or both, but it seems something, or multiple aspects about it, are not intuitive. I think part of it is that it seems to change quite often, the requirements and process for getting them, when there are atlas related changes.

oh boy. My first sentence was "im on standard" theres no "physically getting". You just play 1 map and get everything. You dont even socket it. It should be there automatically and like i said 3 of them are there, socketed but not the originator one. They already fixed a bug related to new atlas and standard. If theres a bug related to standard specifically there might be more. Just look into it

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Likeyeeah#7491 wrote:

Its not a gameplay question, its a game-breaking bug.

Which would require time and research to verify.

There have been people complaining about the game-breaking bug where accessing their map device opens up the Atlas instead of the map device interface. I'm sure you're aware that THAT isn't a bug, right?

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Likeyeeah#7491 wrote:

Im ignoring that Kirac comment to not to get mad. jfc

Okay, so since you won't provide more details, I'll do some testing of my own.



There does appear to be a bug here.
I tested by removing all four of my voidstones in Standard, and dropping them on the floor. All of them disappeared--as quest items, they can't be hidden by an item filter, to my knowledge. So, there must have been something different with voidstones acquired in previous leagues that were converted to the new Atlas.

The voidstones other than the Originator Voidstone were instantly available again from Kirac. These voidstones, when dropped, are not lost; they can be picked up off the ground.

I'll try to make some progress on the Originator storyline in Standard, but I had a memory thread active in Keepers, and so appear to be stuck like others--Eagon doesn't have a map for me to run, there's no thread visible on the Atlas, and I don't see a way to "Apply a Memory Thread" as Eagon's top dialogue option appears to suggest.

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

Okay, so since you won't provide more details, I'll do some testing of my own.

I thought ignoring kirac question was a big detail. Asking that question is not serious. Its like saying "did you type sfc/scannow" whenever someone asks something about windows.

I didnt drop my voidstones, i never had them. I have aegon quest from the last league active and theres no map inside it the same way but as you already know you can buy echo of reverence fragment and alternatively theres uber version of the same boss and it says "kill incarnation of dread". I killed both of them 5 times total. 2 uber, 3 normal one. If it wants the aegon one specifically and the game understands the difference between bought one and aegon one thats another bug im pretty sure. So voidstone is bugged, aegon is bugged because you cant access it, dropping voidstone and not being able to pick it up on kirac is bugged. Great. Thanks for helping tho. Its better than "youre dumb you need to physically go and pick it up" lol

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Likeyeeah#7491 wrote:

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

Okay, so since you won't provide more details, I'll do some testing of my own.

I thought ignoring kirac question was a big detail. Asking that question is not serious. Its like saying "did you type sfc/scannow" whenever someone asks something about windows.

I didnt drop my voidstones, i never had them. I have aegon quest from the last league active and theres no map inside it the same way but as you already know you can buy echo of reverence fragment and alternatively theres uber version of the same boss and it says "kill incarnation of dread". I killed both of them 5 times total. 2 uber, 3 normal one. If it wants the aegon one specifically and the game understands the difference between bought one and aegon one thats another bug im pretty sure. So voidstone is bugged, aegon is bugged because you cant access it, dropping voidstone and not being able to pick it up on kirac is bugged. Great. Thanks for helping tho. Its better than "youre dumb you need to physically go and pick it up" lol

If you pay enough attention to the bug report/gameplay forums you would be shocked at how often people dont do the simplest of things that would have resolved their problem.

Its not an insult to ask the most basic of sanity checks here.

It's possible that reclaiming the Originator Voidstone is tied to/unlocked by the wrong stage of the quest, now that the quest doesn't end with receiving the voidstone but when completing several memory vaults.

I'm not sure I can test this, as my characters are in SSF, not trade.



Check your quest progress for the Threads of the Originator quest. After receiving the voidstone (which it looks like you should have accomplished, even though you don't actually have the voidstone), the quest has been extended. Using Astrolabes is required to progress the quest.

If you trade for some Astrolabes and complete the quest, Kirac might let you pick up the voidstone then.

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gladiatorpie#3317 wrote:

If you pay enough attention to the bug report/gameplay forums you would be shocked at how often people dont do the simplest of things that would have resolved their problem.

Its not an insult to ask the most basic of sanity checks here.

No, its not an insult to say "did you check this", its insult to say "most of the people are dumb and they dont know how to get it". When i start my sentence with "i play on standard" you shouldnt bring "physically collecting it from the ground" you know what i mean? And its not even helpful. And on top of that someone answers you with "imagine ggg solving everyones problem, they wouldve been so slow" like what? Theyre getting paid to do this wdym? Why are you answering if you have nothing to say?

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Jadian#0111 wrote:

It's possible that reclaiming the Originator Voidstone is tied to/unlocked by the wrong stage of the quest, now that the quest doesn't end with receiving the voidstone but when completing several memory vaults.

I'm not sure I can test this, as my characters are in SSF, not trade.



Check your quest progress for the Threads of the Originator quest. After receiving the voidstone (which it looks like you should have accomplished, even though you don't actually have the voidstone), the quest has been extended. Using Astrolabes is required to progress the quest.

If you trade for some Astrolabes and complete the quest, Kirac might let you pick up the voidstone then.

There was a quest related to astrolobes. It wanted me to do 4 of them if im not wrong and i did that too. I was watching some streamers to understand the whole thing and they were finishing astrolobes and finding memory threads and than beating the boss and getting it. Since i have active memory threads from the last league and its bugged i cant find it on normal maps. I think thats the problem at this point.

So, finishing my look into this--apparently the state in which Eagon has an active thread but it isn't on the Atlas and his device doesn't offer a map, is no longer a progress breaker. I'd missed that the 3.28 update made Memory Tears drop a currency for making a thread, rather than starting the thread immediately, so you can start a new thread even with an active one.

After running through through three memory threads, and defeating each Incarnation once more, the Incarnation of Dread dropped me the Originator Voidstone. Leaving on the ground, Kirac once again gave the option to collect the missing Voidstone.



I still feel like it's a bug that Kirac couldn't offer the keystone until going through all of this trouble, but hopefully it isn't an issue that'll reoccur in the future.

If you fought the Incarnation of Dread, opened from your own map device, and still cannot get the Voidstone drop or retrieve the Voidstone from Kirac? Only remaining advice I could offer would be to run through the memory threads again, as though you were starting Eagon's questline from the beginning again.

They released a patch yesterday morning and it was related to aegon, that fixed my problem. I hope they see this and fix not getting the voidstone from the get-go. And also more importantly they need to fix kirac so we can go and take it from him. Thanks for the help