nerf maven bs

degen on the ground who get "clean only one time"

anti heal dot with a debuff who last 10s and stop any form of healing even of flask warcry instant heal, life regen,etc

teleporting every minute so for any melee is not fun, in my case with domination blow was even worst

having the remember the memory game is simple but not with all the bs of the anti heal beam and degen on the ground

every other boss of voidstone boss are simple compared to her, even exarch with this anti heal/minus max res/dot rune who are cancer are less bs than maven all fight

suggestion: no need for all of them just one can be HUGE

beam during memory game don't move
degen ground get cleaned during memory game
degen debuff last 5s instead of 10
dot beam do antiheal debuff or dot but not the 2 at the same time
antiheal is not 100% but just 50 less life regen rate type of thing

of the 2 time i did succes her was a blade vortex of berserking after the berserker rework and it was painfull too and the other one was the first time i did her when detonate dead still worked with specter corpse life

this boss shouldn't be a voidstone boss, a optionnal boss like coxtex would be better

13 years i play this incredible game but there is so many mechanic who need rework or "standardization" might not be the best word x) and yeah maven piss me of, so i gonna uninstall, touch grass, play last epoch tomorrow and be back next league to get rekt by maven again

You are in luck the invitation cost close to nothing. So for all the people who are complaining, now is the best time to actually learn the fight at a very low cost. Probably thanks to Awakening Scarab of the Hordes, lol ;)

The visibility is very bad but this fight can be learned. Just buy 10+ invitations and train like rocky ;P

Obv you might have to upgrade your build. Zdps is very punishing in this fight if you are not that good with the mechanics, yet. You also want to be able to at least tank her shennanigans like cascade of pain, so you only have to worry about the really dangerous stuff.

Is Maven annoying? Absolutely.

Should that be changed? Nope.


"Annoying" is just another word for challenging, at least in the context of an ARPG.

Learn the fight. It can be quite fun once you know how to prepare and what to pay attention to. It gets easier after a while to focus on the important stuff and ignore the fluff. You won't learn it if you only try once or twice a league. Farm or buy a bunch of writs and get your training montage music ready :)

A few points:

Drop Grace/Determination and get level 20 Purity of Ice plus a sapphire flask. This should let you tank the cascade of pain barrage, which will give you more dps uptime.

Bring only flasks that are useful and use them manually based on necessity. Basically life and sapphire flasks, maybe a quicksilver for memory game in the last phase. Sapphire for cascade of pain and for standing in degen puddles, if your regen isn't good enough.

Pay attention to the audio cue that plays when the volatile orbs (that cause the degen ground) spawn. Once you hear it, locate the balls and drag them to your preferred "poop spot". Make sure you pop them all on top of each other, either at the edge of the arena or right in the center (best case, if done correctly). Having good sustain helps here, since you might need to stand in the puddles for a bit in order to pop all of them.

Practise the memory game in the spinning beam phase. It can be hard to get good dps uptime in this phase so you might have to survive a few of these. Good movement speed helps, but not so high that you can't precisely control your character.

In this fight I would probably prefer Flame Dash over Frostblink because of the spinning beam phase. You won't hit the maven with Frostblink, so no CDR. Having 3 cooldown uses is more useful here, imo.

Suggestion - learn to fight and practice - that's all.

She's easy as F.

Few leagues ago i was not like to doing her also because of last phase - Rotating Beams + memory game - was killing my Concentration and meaking me tired.

But after i'm farmed her like 400-500x times at least in Keepers 3.27 - she's the easiest boss for me now.

Can do memory games with closed eyes - any combinations.