The Economy Needs A DIVINE Standard Price

I think that almost all the problems with this game's economy could be solved if we had a Standard Price for divine orbs. Hear me out. The economy is dominated by people who manipulate it by various ways, from group play to bots (I imagine), with clans that buy up supply and rack up prices. This would be solved if divine orb would be obtainable in game for a CHAOS to DIVINE exchange. If you could give Faustus 100 chaos for 1 divine, with a maximum of 10 per 24H for example. The orbs would have a stable value. And all this manipulating the economy bullshit would stop, for the most part. I play a lot, and I never found a Mageblood, or a mirror, my luck is really bad even with the best juice. But I do make thousands of chaos. As of today, they have almost no value. The DIVINE standard would cramp on real money transactions as well. Unless there is a reason that the devs don't want that. I am not accusing anyone of conspiracy here, but if you don't want to solve the real money trading for more than a decade, IDK man... What do you think? Barter would still be barter, but we could craft and reroll items with divines more, and the game would be more healthy as a result.

PS - This would also work in POE 2

I also agree that every currency should be able to be converted with others.

That wouldn't fix the economy that much because a 1 div item would cost 2 or 3 div instead.

But yes, a complete basic currency exchange would be interesting. All except mirrors, I guess.

This annoys me to no end. It is so easy to make currency without even juicing content yet players constantly want to fix their deficiencies by fundamentally changing the entire game. Like, what is this.

How would it solve anything?

Item now you want to buy for 10 div when the exchange rate is 1 div = 300c would just become an item that costs 30+ div instead, it wouldn't make it any more obtainable

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Storm_1685#0554 wrote:

I think that almost all the problems with this game's economy could be solved if we had a Standard Price for divine orbs. Hear me out. The economy is dominated by people who manipulate it by various ways, from group play to bots (I imagine), with clans that buy up supply and rack up prices. This would be solved if divine orb would be obtainable in game for a CHAOS to DIVINE exchange. If you could give Faustus 100 chaos for 1 divine, with a maximum of 10 per 24H for example. The orbs would have a stable value. And all this manipulating the economy bullshit would stop, for the most part. I play a lot, and I never found a Mageblood, or a mirror, my luck is really bad even with the best juice. But I do make thousands of chaos. As of today, they have almost no value. The DIVINE standard would cramp on real money transactions as well. Unless there is a reason that the devs don't want that. I am not accusing anyone of conspiracy here, but if you don't want to solve the real money trading for more than a decade, IDK man... What do you think? Barter would still be barter, but we could craft and reroll items with divines more, and the game would be more healthy as a result.

PS - This would also work in POE 2

If they would make it: mageblood/mirror/etc would be higher price. This won't solve rmt race of this trash. The only real solution to end this rmt race- proper banning and bot detection only. I'm not a rmt guy but know 4 rmt sites and easily can get currency here if i want to buy/sell, ggg knows it and do nothing, they can easily check these methods with drop item manipulations, register patterns and start to ban them,

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Randall#0850 wrote:

How would it solve anything?

Item now you want to buy for 10 div when the exchange rate is 1 div = 300c would just become an item that costs 30+ div instead, it wouldn't make it any more obtainable

Brother if the incentive is selling DIVINES for MONEY, then you want as many divines as possible to be sold, hence the inflated prices. If there is a natural way of exchanging for divines that dilutes the selling power of said item. It's basic economy. Besides the only way they corner the market is by setting the divine standard price. Is it just me annoyed at the fact that some chinese/ukraine/romanian/etc farm somewhere is dictating how and when and how much your items cost?

Faulty logic from the start: we have ALWAYS had an example of "standard" prices for currencies....vendors. those prices are NEVER EVER going to be equal to trade value because it is impossible to determine or predict the value of each currency: a value entirely determined by a massive playerbase as a whole entity.

There are so many different factors that go into "trade value" at every level of currency: much more than simple price fixing. Price fixing, especially currency.... Is a literal impossible task in PoE. When people claim this, it is an immediate red flag of knowledge lacking. Fixing requires one party to monopolize an entire resource to an absurd degree....and divines are simply too common for that to be possible. Items? Maybe. Mirrors? Maybe but also unlikely because shards aren't as rare as they used to be.

A standard preassigned "trade" value of a currency cannot ever exist in this game. That's why it's called "trade" and is separate from "vending"



*Always be wary when you write something like "all the games problems could be solved by xyz". The game has been out 13 years, and it isn't the only game of it's type that exists. Do you REALLY think you've stumbled upon the golden bullet that only takes a few sentences to write about? Have you REALLY researched or thought about it enough? More than thousands of others whose profession it is to solve these issues have thought about for decades?

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Storm_1685#0554 wrote:

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Randall#0850 wrote:

How would it solve anything?

Item now you want to buy for 10 div when the exchange rate is 1 div = 300c would just become an item that costs 30+ div instead, it wouldn't make it any more obtainable

Brother if the incentive is selling DIVINES for MONEY, then you want as many divines as possible to be sold, hence the inflated prices. If there is a natural way of exchanging for divines that dilutes the selling power of said item. It's basic economy. Besides the only way they corner the market is by setting the divine standard price. Is it just me annoyed at the fact that some chinese/ukraine/romanian/etc farm somewhere is dictating how and when and how much your items cost?

But the fact that there's barely any chaos sinks this league is the reason for chaos being so devalued. For them to worth something vs divs there needs to be a reason to use them

Just go Haunted Mansion and click boxes. Literally zero invesment because you find more ambush scarabs than you will use. Solved all economic problems for me, lol.

You just need ~100k gold to cash in at Faustus.